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BlackBerry Torch 9800 Review
Aug 26th
There is one thing to say about the brand-new AT&T-powered BlackBerry Torch 9800: it starts up a hell of a lot faster than its immediate predecessor, the 9700. That’s kind of the theme of the entire operation: the Torch is a BlackBerry device, but faster, deeper, and similarly infuriating as any before it.
The Design
I have owned three BlackBerry devices in my time before using a Torch: a Pearl 8100, a Bold 9000 and its successor, the Bold 9700. Each device has its design advantages and its flaws, but the crown achievement of the the Torch is its “fullness.” Compared to the Bold 9700, which feels solid, but light, the Torch is a tank. It’s not that it is a heavy device, but it is certainly well-rounded.
My unit, like most BlackBerry devices I’ve used, has some seriously build quality issues. While the slider mechanism for the screen is solid (actually, it’s outstanding, and extremely satisfying) the screen wiggles like a little pig when the keyboard is exposed and you are interacting with the touchscreen. It pivots slightly back and forth. But that is probably not the rule, but the exception. Except that I’ve had about five “exceptions” in my time as a BlackBerry owner. Something’s gotta give, RIM.
The device layout is going to be familiar to anyone with a Bold 9700. The rubberized keys are the same as on the 9700, the lock and mute buttons on top are clicky, and the camera button is two-step perfection.
The interesting dichotomy of the device comes in the interaction between your fingers, the touchscreen and the trackpad. Most people upgrading to this device will be doing so from a non-touchscreen BlackBerry. That means, for Curve and Bold users, the trackpad will be second nature while using your fingers less so. When I first powered up the device, I began using it as I would my Bold, but after a few seconds, you realize that the build included on the Torch is not optimized for the trackpad. In fact, some functions work far better with your fingers. Scrolling works as it should, but at times using the trackpad to go from one text-input box to another does not work. You have to use your fingers instead to move up or down.
The tentative world in which this BlackBerry exists, then, is untenable. The device can be used as you would a non-touchscreen one, and most of the experiences with the new BlackBerry 6 are going to be the same as they would on the old OS. In fact, you can tell that BB6 is based largely off OS5 code, since the BlackBerry button menus are identical. The inclusion of long-press on the screen to select context options are an added bonus, but offer nothing essential to the experience. I still prefer using that annoying button to the left of the trackpad to do most of my context selections.
BlackBerry 6 is a strange animal. First off, the browser is the centrepiece of the operating system. No longer do you dread opening a link from an email or a tweet, waiting 2-3 minutes of inactivity only to discover the browser can’t load it because there is too much javascript. The WebKit browser, while not up to the speed standards one is used to on Android or iPhone, is capable and quite fast to load pages initially, though ones with heavy images take much longer than their iOS equivalents.
The app menu has been tweaked for gesture usage, too, and apps are no longer downloaded to a Downloads folder. Instead they populate the “All” portion of the home screen, and you can choose between Favorites, Frequent, Downloads, Media and All, with a flick of the finger. It works extremely well, in fact, and is one of the nicer inclusions to the OS overhaul.
The home screen is going to seem very familiar to anyone who has used OS5, but the fact that you can click on the 3G symbol to quickly get into Manage Connections, or start typing on the keyboard to activate Universal Search, makes using a BlackBerry one of the easiest ways to ascertain information on a smartphone.
Tapping right below the clock will pull down a list of your latest emails, SMS messages, calendar entries and missed phone calls, another easy way to achieve information overload. A lot of the interface is quite busy, and since you often don’t know whether to use your finger on the trackpad or on the screen itself, I find it difficult to decide how to obtain the information I need.
The keyboard is nice and clicky, and feels a lot like the Bold 9700 but, because it is more recessed, a little less reliable when touch typing. The phone is weighted quite well when the slider is open, but that doesn’t mean that it is entirely perfect. I often found it difficult to pull off perfect sentences the way I do on the Bold, but that will likely come in time. The quality is second to none, and right up to RIM’s standards of excellence.
The on-screen keyboard is another matter, and not one I would really recommend getting too chummy with. While there is on-screen error correction, it is unreliable, and, especially on portrait, the keys are spaced very close together. In fact, I would never recommend using the virtual keyboard in portrait mode, for obvious reasons. The landscape virtual keyboard is much more spacious, and as a result, more usable, but still, because the backspace key is right above the enter key, most of the time, when trying to touch-type, you end up pressing enter when you meant otherwise.
The aggravation doesn’t stop there. BlackBerry 6 messes with your brain. You don’t know whether you want to use touch or the trackpad, and as a result you end up using both. It’s awkward and clunky and there are still too many menus.
Performance
The phone runs relatively well on the 6.0.0.141 build I am running. That isn’t to say it’s a smooth experience, because it isn’t, but if you used the BlackBerry Bold 9000 when it first came out, you understand that as the OS matured, the performance increased dramatically — so much so that it was like running a completely new phone. The problem with the device is that it runs the same processor as the Bold 9000 and the 9700. That is to say, the hardware has not kept up with the industry. There are Snapdragons and Hummingbirds, and this feels like an Emu. Hardy, but flightless.
Upping the ante on the camera, however, was a nice touch, and boy does the Torch take pretty pictures! The 5MP camera is much more responsive than previous builds, and the flash is bright and capable. With the Torch you can likely leave your point and shoot at home. That is, unless, you decide you want to take some video, as the Torch only shoots at an inexcusably pitiful 640×480 resolution.
Media and video has been given an overhaul, and the apps work as expected. Sound is clear and video playback smooth. Too bad there is no xVid or DivX playback out of the box, but with the proliferation of BlackBerry apps in the near future, I have no doubt the choice for media players will grow. Update: there is native DivX playback out of the box, so maybe it was my files that weren’t working. Keep it to a low enough bitrate and they should work fine. Nice one, RIM!
There is a bit of slowdown on the device on occasion; the clock will appear at the most random places. I have had an app or two crash on me, but overall the device feels smooth. Startup is down to around 45 seconds, which is an enormous improvement over its predecessor.
The browser is another area that the performance could be improved, but that will come with time. As mentioned before, the very fact that all web pages are accessible now is a huge boon to the device.
Call quality is excellent, too. Using the device as a phone is relatively painless, especially now that BIS has integrated Google Contacts syncing. Next we need calendar syncing, which should come in a future BIS upgrade, and you will never need Desktop Manager again. Thank goodness.
BlackBerry App World 2.0 debuted with the Torch, and it is a nice improvement over 1.0. Apps can be priced at $.99 or $1.99 now, and there are more ways to incorporate existing APIs into the function of the OS. RIM has been heavily promoting its Super App contest, hoping to get developers excited to build for the platform, but so far, I haven’t seen any need-to-have apps coming from the App Store that weren’t already there with OS5. Give it time, and BlackBerry 6 will become more app-centric.
The Good
There are a lot of good things to say about the Torch, and of Blackberry 6. It is smoother, faster, more touch-friendly. The keyboard is a dream and the device is well designed. Everything you could already do with a BlackBerry is still here, just refined, improved, and sped up. The browser is essential, and absolutely welcome. You can use it like an old BlackBerry, with the trackpad, or like a Storm, using only the touch screen. The new hold-to-activate menus are attractive, and while not necessary, a natural evolution. Gesture support and universal search are brilliant.
The screen, at 480x360px, is sharp and easy to read in the sun. But it’s still low-res compared to the iPhone 4, and is disappointing when reading text on the new WebKit browser. Going from a Samsung Galaxy S to the Torch is like taking off your reading glasses: everything is a blur. But I like the screen, and the touch response is excellent. Smooth and very little lag.
The Bad
The manufacturing process is still quite weak, or maybe I just got a dud, but the build quality is relatively weak. The on-screen keyboards are a waste of time, especially in portrait, but who cares, right? The trackpad/touchscreen paradigm is still extremely confusing, and you’re more likely to use a unique mashup of both than stick to one or the other. As a result, accessing the menus become a frustrating exercise where you don’t know what’s going to pop up. There is significant slowdown at times, due to the relatively slow processor. There is 512MB RAM, but something’s gotta give. The browser can be painfully slow loading or scrolling through heavy web pages, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it won’t get better in a future OS release.
This is an evolutionary product, and indeed the best BlackBerry ever created. That doesn’t mean it’s enough to keep RIM from falling flat, nor does it mean that they can rest on their laurels and not try to significantly improve the user experience in future OS iterations. BlackBerry 6 is a worthy upgrade, and if Bold 9650 or 9700 owners ever get a chance to install it, do not hesitate. I too believe that because they were fashioning the new OS for non-touch legacy devices, they had to make some design decisions to appease both. As a result, touch does not seem entirely smooth or natural on the Torch.
The battery life has also been an issue: compared to the Bold 9700, for which I could eek out two days without charging the phone, I am getting around 5-6 hours of life use on the Torch. It’s still better than any Android phone I’ve used, but that isn’t an endorsement. I have heard, however, that because I am using the AT&T firmware on a Rogers SIM card, there may be reasons why my battery life is lower than it should be, and once the Rogers Torch is officially released, the firmware should be optimized for Rogers’ 3G network, and use less battery constantly searching for towers. I also hope it fixes the intermittent loss of BIS service I’ve experienced over the past four days.
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I hope this isn’t the last I write on the device. I really enjoy using it, but not enough to want to run out and buy one. It’s a great phone, and if you’ve never owned a BlackBerry, this is likely going to be the one that tips you over the edge. It’s not an iPhone, though, and you have to understand what you’re getting with it. BBM is the same as it always was; for those who rely on your manic fingers to communicate with friends and family, there is no better device on the market than a BlackBerry.
If you want apps, stay far, far away.
This Week In BlackBerry 8/15-8/21
Aug 22nd
Just last week we had the release of the official BlackBerry Podcast app, BBM 5.0.1 and Desktop Manager 6.0. RIM did not slow down this weeek, as they released Facebook for BlackBerry v1.8 and App World 2.0 to the public. Isn’t it great when you load apps/updates that give you a sense of renewed appreciation for your device? I sure do but let’s face it, that appreciation fades pretty damn fast. Especially after seeing BB6 run like butter on the 9700. Hit the jump to see what you may have missed this week in BlackBerry>>
News, rumors & leaks
Video: BlackBerry6 running on the Bold 9700
BlackBerry Bold R020 To Replace 9700
BlackBerry Oxford 9670 housing for sale online [Pics]
BlackBerry 9670 Clamshell Not Exclusive to Verizon, Headed to Sprint Soon?
Half off the BlackBerry Torch 9800?
Rogers Introduces Pay As You Go BlackBerry Data
apps
Are you experiencing notification issues with Facebook v1.8 for BlackBerry? Here’s the fix..
Facebook for BlackBerry v1.8.0.49 available in App World!
BlackBerry App World v2.0.0.36 Rolling Out Now – Full Details
Third Dropbox Beta Released For BlackBerry
Good Video Browser for BlackBerry

Torch 9800 Poll - Follow Up
Aug 16th
Just to recap on last weeks poll, it looks like only a small percentage of our readers were able to get their hands on a Torch. That’s not surprising being that AT&T is the only carrier that has released the Torch as of yet. Unfortunately 46% of the voters are waiting in limbo for their carrier to release the Torch. Not to worry, the Torch will be coming to Telus, Bell, Rogers, Virgin Canada, Orange UK and Vodafone UK in the upcoming weeks. It seems to me that a lot of GSM BlackBerry subscribers were/are starving for a touch-screen BlackBerry device.
The remaining 41% of the voters are either happy with their current devices or are waiting for something else to release. I happen to be in that 41% as well. I just love the standard QWERTY form factor and plan on sticking with my 9700 until the 9780 releases, but I must admit, I am jealous of you people who are already running BlackBerry 6.
Poll: Torch 9800 - Have you? Will You?
Aug 16th
As most of you may know, the Torch 9800 has finally launched on AT&T . It will also will be coming to Telus, Bell, Rogers, Virgin Canada, Orange UK and Vodafone UK in the upcoming weeks. I’m on AT&T and have decided to pass on the 9800 for now. I’m personally a fan of standard QWERTY style BlackBerrys and don’t really see myself using a slider for more than a short time. I don’t know if my feelings will change, but for now I’m standing strong with my Bold 9700 on OS 5. Although, if BlackBerry 6 doesn’t end up leaking for the 9700 soon and there is still no sign of the 9780 in sight, I might just crack.
So what’s your stance on the Torch 9800?
This Week In BlackBerry 8/8-8/14
Aug 15th
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Between the release of the Torch 9800, BBM v5.0.1.38, Desktop Manager 6.0 and the BlackBerry Podcast App, there’s been something for everyone this week in BlackBerry. Hit the jump to see what else you may have missed here at TheCellularGuru>>
News & rumors
RIM Officially Announces the Blackberry Curve 3G
Rogers Blackberry Curve 9300 price dropping August 17th to $49.99
India Planning To Ban Email and BBM By September
Telus launches the BlackBerry Curve 3G
Virgin Mobile to release the Blackberry Curve 3G
Apps & Software
BBM Updated To Version 5.0.1.38!
Official BlackBerry Podcasts app now available!
Blackberry Desktop Manager 6.0 available for download
PingChat! for BlackBerry updated to 0.5.0
Editorial
Mobile Lifestyle: How To Be Sneaky On BBM!
This Week In BlackBerry 8/1-8/7
Aug 8th
There’s been a lot of BlackBerry news this past week, but the Torch 9800 seems to be most prevalent. Everyone wants to give their 2 cents on how the Torch will stack up to iPhone and Android run devices. Yes RIM is definitely behind in the touch screen game and the Torch isn’t the device to win over the market, but with BlackBerry 6 and the WebKit browser it will be a great device for people who love the BlackBerry OS and desire a touch screen. Also the option to slide out an ever so familiar BlackBerry keyboard is definitely a plus. Hit the jump to see what you may have missed this week in BlackBerry at TheCellularGuru>>
News, rumors & leaks
Live images of BlackBerry 6 on the Bold 9650 appear
InsideBlackBerry sheds some more light on new BlackBerry browser
AT&T stores begin receiving Torch 9800 T-shirts
Rogers quietly launches the Curve 9300
AT&T BlackBerry Torch Commercial
Rogers, Bell, Virgin and Telus confirm the BlackBerry Torch 9800
Want to take BlackBerry 6 for a ride?
RIM officially announces the BlackBerry Torch 9800
BlackBerry Torch now live on AT&T’s website
BlackBerry Torch 9800 gets official FCC nod
Rogers trying to clear stock of curve 8520. 9300 just around the corner?
Editorial
RIM let a bunch of garbage into App World today!
Half of BlackBerry users are ready to jump ship to Android and iPhone
Will the Torch burn out?
AT&T BlackBerry Torch Commercial
Aug 3rd
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RIM is pushing the Torch harder than they have pushed any device in the past. CrackBerry was able to get their hands on a new AT&T Torch commercial which has yet to hit TV screens. Personally, I didn’t find the commercial very enticing. In my opinion, there’s too much focus on the slide out keyboard and not enough BB6, but I’m just one person. What did you think of the commercial?
[Via: CrackBerry]
Will the Torch burn out?
Aug 3rd
Remember those monolinths that AT&T received but were not to be opened? If you had guessed the BB Torch 9800 was inside, you are correct. RIM has been losing market share to Google and Apple recently and they’re banking on the Torch to stop the bleeding. Even though BB6 should bring back the crack, have too many of RIM’s followers already jumped ship and fallen in love with Android or iOS? There’s no question that RIM will still have some catching up to do in the touchscreen market, but do you think the Torch will be enough to at least help RIM hold down their current spot? Most international carriers run on GSM so I see why RIM is pushing the Torch before the Odin Refresh, but I’m sure plenty of CDMA Storm 2 users will make the jump to Android devices while the Torch 9800 sits pretty at GSM carriers. How many of you will be picking up the Torch on launch day?
[Image Via: Gizmodo]
BlackBerry 9800 Hitting AT&T on the 15th of August?
Jul 21st
It’s no secret that the BlackBerry 9800 slider is coming fast for an official launch on AT&T, but VentureBeat has come up with a date to set your sights on. That date is August 15th, and it comes from John Albright of the BlackBerry Partners Fund who mentioned the date of a new BlackBerry’s release. Later he confirmed our suspicions of the device being the 9800 by naming off features such as a touchscreen with slide-out keyboard.
The biggest news that Albright revealed is that the 9800 has already been distributed to developers, hopefully giving them the tools they need to have their apps ready for the official launch of BlackBerry 6. RIM hasn’t been very good at getting devices out to developers in the past, but if this is true it looks like things are changing on that front.
[Via VentureBeat]
BlackBerry 9800 Slider Going To Be Called Torch 9800?
Jun 15th
What’s in a name? A lot if you are re-branding an entire product line. The Bold series has become synonymous with style and power, and it has been a couple years since RIM launched a new product line for their BlackBerry series of phones.
The new 9800 slider, which we’ve seen numerous times already, has had the Bold name attached to it since the beginning, since it was thought that all flagship devices would have the name. Crackberry did a little investigative reporting and found that RIM already owns the domain name to BlackBerryTorch.com.
I don’t know if I like the Torch name at the moment, but I didn’t like iPad when it came out. We’ll see where this goes.
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